What now for Lennon?

How do we see this playing out? will the new owners give him a chance with a bit of money for loans? and if so do you expect him to turn it around? I doubt he can but we'll see.

At the end of the day. Minus madine and heskey the players he has at his disposal "should" be in a better position then we are. Oh and dershite as well.

Time to go. ......

I can't see him getting any new funds beyond those needed to maintain the status quo. The money spent getting rid of him might be better spent elsewhere. I think he probably has enough to keep us in the Championship. Just. Summer brings new funds - hopefully season ticket renewals if we stay in the current division. Assuming all the above, we might be parting company come June.

We bring a new manager in, all that happens is a few players get a new lease of life for a month or two before it's back to normal, and the same old people are coming up with spurious justifications for sacking him.

Maybe the honeymoon period would be enough to keep us up. But we'd only be back to square one eventually and it would keep happening until people faced the reality that the team needs rebuilding from top to bottom. I honestly think if Lennon was left with the Beehive Slimming World club to pick from we'd still have fans saying "alright they're not great, but we shouldn't be bottom of the league." I mean the squad has gotten smaller and cheaper every season since we got relegated. For how long can you keep that trend going and still have a competent team? How strong was it even to begin with?

It all smacks of people looking for excuses to sack him, as opposed to having actual reasons.

I'm not even saying Lennon is a great manager, I just don't think we'd know about it even if he was.

Sugar Tits and Lemon should be up all night drawing up a list of out of contract players they want to weigh for if/when the transfer embargo is lifted. Madine and Dervite can be replaced by the unemployed.

Phil Brown wants him out by Tuesday .

i think he will see out the season and leave whether we stay up or not.

I think he would be better going back to Scottish league football 

Doffy, 2 months of a new lease of life could see us avoid relegation.

he may not have any choice in it, new owners often means a new manager

y2johnny wrote:Doffy, 2 months of a new lease of life could see us avoid relegation.

Yes I made that point too, but don't you see that that's exactly the impact Lennon had, yet here everybody stands saying he couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Be honest, if a new manager came in and kept us up, people would be on here, kissing his arse like there's no tomorrow. Anybody with any criticism for him would be shot right down. Then a few months later, it would be back to reality, and the exact same people who wouldn't have a bad word said about him before would be the first ones on here calling him clueless and tactically inept and tactically naïve and all the usual bollocks.

We could keep going round in circles like that forever and some people would never accept that we'd be just as well in the long term spending what little money we've got on the team.

i agree up to a point Doffy, but if a manager is clearly struggling and can't motivate or coach the team to do better then what's the point keeping him? How long do you have to struggle for before saying enough is enough?

I have no problem with lennon, I like the man. Given funds he would do well in my opinion.

Judge a manager on the players he brings in. He's brought in, what, 20 or so players who have all been shit. Not average, but shit. The defenders especially have been woeful.

Yes, he has no money. That doesn't mean you have to bring in shite. You'd expect even an average manager to bring in one or two gems out of those 20 players.

The simple fact is he spent his only other managerial job buying anyone he wanted from the league he was managing in. If Hearts had a good player, he bought him. Not exactly difficult is it.

But in the Championship and League 1 he's going to have to identify rough talent, or cheap buys that will step up in quality. Can he do it? Unlikely.

Leeds_Trotter wrote: Given funds he would do well in my opinion.

Anyone can manage a club with "funds".

Lennon isn't going to get funds and he's already shown how clueless he is on a tiny budget.

We need an experienced League 1/Championship manager to get us out of this shit.

He must stay. He'd do very well with a decent side, as he was proving until he had to cut costs and let go of players like chungy.

We've struggled this season as he's had no money for transfer fees and very little money for wages. I'm sorry but anyone is going to find it difficult to improve the side.

The thing is we aren't going to have money to spend still. So what we need is a manager who will get the best out of what we have and thus so far he has proved incapable of doing that. The team is never settled. They aren't motivated one bit. The current squad is capable of more than is being achieved therefore lennon isn't doing his job

Norpig wrote:i agree up to a point Doffy, but if a manager is clearly struggling and can't motivate or coach the team to do better then what's the point keeping him? How long do you have to struggle for before saying enough is enough?

I agree but do you not think it puts it into perspective that we've had three managers on the trot now who seemed great at motivating players initially, but ultimately couldn't motivate them at all?

Is it that we're just really unlucky or are managers that can keep a team motivated long term a lot harder to come by than one might think? Obviously Ferguson seemed to always get 110% out of his players but even there you could argue that he always had world class talent to work with, unlike the hundreds of journeymen we've had at Bolton this last five years or so.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Yes, he has no money. That doesn't mean you have to bring in shite. You'd expect even an average manager to bring in one or two gems out of those 20 players.

Well to be fair I seem to remember Marcos Alonso being every bit as disastrous as Derik Osede, and he went on to be probably our best player at one point.

doffcocker wrote:

I agree but do you not think it puts it into perspective that we've had three managers on the trot now who seemed great at motivating players initially, but ultimately couldn't motivate them at all?

You need to show me evidence that Lennon can work on a tight budget.

The simple answer is you can't.

Going off the evidence, and the evidence alone, you'd be a bellend to suggest anything other than he is clueless.