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31Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 09:52

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Guys it's a bloody football forum.

Let's chill out.

I used to take the forums way way to seriously when NAT used to wind me up something rotten. I look back now and cringe at my behaviour.

Well said Hipster.

Unfortunately people do take forums seriously and others will wind them up because they do.

Some even take their forum spats into the real world!

That's how deep social media is now ingrained in some peoples lives!

It's not going to change anytime soon though.

32Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 10:04

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Its because i've stuck up for him in the past and mentioned it on a thread about when he was due back, nothing more, nothing less. Getting more paranoid by the minute aren't you?

I'd be interested to know what the founders and mods of this site think of all this? Anyone going to stick their head above the parapet or not?

33Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 10:27

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Norpig wrote:Its because i've stuck up for him in the past and mentioned it on a thread about when he was due back, nothing more, nothing less. Getting more paranoid by the minute aren't you?

I'd be interested to know what the founders and mods of this site think of all this? Anyone going to stick their head above the parapet or not?

Paranoid, I've just told you to go and set up your own forum and do what ever you like once you have.

How paranoid of me is that?

If any of the Nuts founders or mods want to go and join you doing that, then they are entirely free to do so, they certainly aren't chained to their Nuts desks by me.

Maybe, just maybe, they've seen for themselves from behind the scenes how much shit I've had to take over the years trying to run the site fairly for everyone rather to pander to one or two super egos and wouldn't want to go through all that again?

34Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 10:35

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I give up, if you want to see this forum you've funded with your own money go down the pan then carry on, but don't be surprised when the number of posts keep dwindling to next to nothing and you end up talking to yourself.

I've said my piece and i don't agree with how you run this site and nothings going to change so i'm staying out of it from now on, keep fiddling Nero.

35Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 11:16

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Norpig wrote:I give up, if you want to see this forum you've funded with your own money go down the pan then carry on, but don't be surprised when the number of posts keep dwindling to next to nothing and you end up talking to yourself.

I've said my piece and i don't agree with how you run this site and nothings going to change so i'm staying out of it from now on, keep fiddling Nero.

Nothing lasts forever.

It was fun on here at times but there's always been one or two who went far to far.

I've been as fair as I can be to everybody (even those who clearly had issues with me) and after seven years I've banned only three people yet in your last few posts alone you tell me that...

- I'm a megalomaniac
- I'm a dictator
- I apparently run the forum however I like - carte blanche
- I'm paranoid
- that you don't agree with how I run the site
- I'm fiddling like Nero
- that I'm going to be ending up talking to myself

...and all that because I've simply banned your mate after enduring three years of abuse from him, then him going on to another forum to continue it - the last bit being the final straw. 

Do you really think he wouldn't simply carry on if he had returned - and do you think that is really what the rest of the forum would have wanted to see and put up with until his next inevitable ban?

What other option was there really?

Oh I know, that I throw myself under a bus.

Well I'm not doing that.

So we are where we are.

Thanks for all you've done for Nuts and all the best for your future.

36Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 11:58

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Initially, I thought Sluffy had over-reacted, as he was prone to do with Wander. However, the more I read, the more I can sympathise with Sluffy, and can understand his reaction to both Wander, and this thread.
As somebody said, Wander did get more heated these last couple of years. I believe the Brexit arguments on here was a cause of that, and possibly this led to a change in attitude. Add to this Sluffy's dislike of him, and instant retaliation on any topic, with insults by and to each other growing more personal daily, it could only end up one way.
For two intelligent people it was sometimes embarrassing to read, in fact I stopped reading both of their comments when they talking to each other.
I personally think Sluffy was right to take action, but a lifetime ban is maybe too severe, but there again, why should he suffer such abuse. When the argument spills over to another forum, then that should have been a wake-up call to both, especially Sluffy, as it will drive people away from this one.
I believe people should say what they mean, and some abuse will always creep in, but incessant personal abuse is wrong.
Mr Pig, Bonce, don't leave, we need to give Sluffy time to calm down, and then he will no doubt get himself back on an even keel, (as far as we are concerned  Very Happy)

37Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:11

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I didn't say i was leaving, i wouldn't give Sluffy the satisfaction, he'll have to ban me first to stop me posting. What i meant was i wouldn't push the argument any further as it painfully obvious we are getting nowhere but sluffy as ever has to keep answering  Rolling Eyes

If people want me to stop posting then feel free to let me know.

38Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:14

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Don't be daft, how would we keep up with the internal workings of the NHS, (or of the patients, at least) Very Happy

39Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:16

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
God help Nuts if there is a second referendum Shocked

40Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:17

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I may have to start my own thread on bed pans Glos  Laughing

41Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:19

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Would you like us to contribute?  Smile

42Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:33

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
If you feel the need then yes, fire away. No pictures of your used bed pan please though  Very Happy

43Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:36

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Can't think of an answer to this  Very Happy

44Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 12:52

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Here's some relevant content, Norpig. Made me chuckle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfOpe_nD_iA

45Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 13:47

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Sad all this in fighting a slippery slope banning people who don't share your views so i would like to see him back, and without Bonce and co hardly worth logging on these days. Sometimes you have to see the bigger picture.

In saying that we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes so the mods stroke site owner should have the right to take any action he/she thinks benefits the site.



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46Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 13:53

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:I didn't say i was leaving, i wouldn't give Sluffy the satisfaction, he'll have to ban me first to stop me posting. What i meant was i wouldn't push the argument any further as it painfully obvious we are getting nowhere but sluffy as ever has to keep answering  Rolling Eyes

If people want me to stop posting then feel free to let me know.

No one wants you to leave. The forum would be much worse for it.

47Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 16:00

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I couldn't care less about lusty, but his abuse was mild compared to that dished out by KP.

So are you saying we can't abuse sluffy, but everyone else is fair game?

48Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 16:10

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@Norpig wrote:I didn't say i was leaving, i wouldn't give Sluffy the satisfaction, he'll have to ban me first to stop me posting. What i meant was i wouldn't push the argument any further as it painfully obvious we are getting nowhere but sluffy as ever has to keep answering  Rolling Eyes

If people want me to stop posting then feel free to let me know.

No one wants you to leave. The forum would be much worse for it.
Thank you Hipster, i know we don't always see eye to eye so that means a lot  Very Happy

49Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 16:39

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:I couldn't care less about lusty, but his abuse was mild compared to that dished out by KP.

So are you saying we can't abuse sluffy, but everyone else is fair game?
What abuse have I served up love?

I only wanted your company for 5 mins at the bins behind Bargain Booze! Shocked

50Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 18:03

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Natasha Whittam wrote:I couldn't care less about lusty, but his abuse was mild compared to that dished out by KP.

So are you saying we can't abuse sluffy, but everyone else is fair game?

No personal abuse should be acceptable now that we are well into the twenty-first century but we haven't achieved anything like a perfect world yet and have to accept some abuse will always go on.

To compare KP to Wanderlust is laughable and you know it.

I don't consider Wanderlust abuse of me to be mild in the least, his constant and deliberate attempts to imply I had multiple mental health issues and severe personality defects may well seem funny to you and others but when you've had to tolerate it for the best part of three years it really isn't funny at all - particularly as you know it is only being said as an attempted character assignation to try and win some pointless internet argument.

I think however you might be getting totally mixed up on what was said by whom?  You posted previously on this thread that words such as 'moonman' and 'muppet' wasn't abusive at all - thank you because those along with nutjob, where about the extent of the 'abuse' I ever used.

Incredibly some people claim that I was equally as bad as Wanderlust for the abuse, when he was blatantly making out I had severe mental health problems - the two are hardly comparable are they?

As for KP occasional outbursts, whilst they may be regrettable they certainly are not said maliciously nor repeated constantly week after week, month after month, year after year, simply to attempt to make someone out as mentally ill in order to win meaningless arguments.

Wanderlust continued abuse of me on from another forum was the sign I needed for me to KNOW it was never going to end if he did return, so it was best for all concerned to draw a line under things at that point and move on.

I don't regret the decision - it was the right one for the forum if nothing else.

Shame Bonce chose not to see it that way though.

And for what it is worth I'm very pleased Norpig had decided to stay and seemingly everyone else too.

51Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 17:15

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:To compare KP to Wanderlust is laughable and you know it.

Admittedly I stopped reading Lusty's posts a long time ago, but did anything reach the level of the above posts by KP?

Are you happy with KP's comments?

52Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 17:38

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:To compare KP to Wanderlust is laughable and you know it.

Admittedly I stopped reading Lusty's posts a long time ago, but did anything reach the level of the above posts by KP?

Are you happy with KP's comments?

Well one set is about someone's 'pantomime' type abuse of the Prime Minister, and another is someone specifically targeting me personally, deliberately making out that I am mentally ill and suffer from a multitude of personality disorders!

So yeah, I'd say those types of comments surpassed the level of KP posts by a fraction or so, wouldn't you?

KP's comments are nothing compared to what I've constantly put up with just to allow somebody to air their opinion.

Wanderlust could still be doing it now if he would only drop the abuse - God we asked him enough times - but he wouldn't - and quite frankly once he started to regularly abuse me from another forum, I knew he was never going to stop it.

53Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 20:23

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Looks my post highlighting KP's "pantomime" comments has been deleted.

Poor show.

54Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 20:32

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
This is a strange thread.

55Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 20:50

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Guys it's a bloody football forum.

Let's chill out.

I used to take the forums way way to seriously when NAT used to wind me up something rotten. I look back now and cringe at my behaviour.

Ye that is the point though, it’s just a football forum. If you can’t just ignore an opinion you don’t like there’s no hope for interesting conversation is there.

Remove the ban and grow up, this is a personal feud there’s nothing deserving one lusty’s posts of this ban.

56Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 20:52

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Natasha Whittam wrote:Looks my post highlighting KP's "pantomime" comments has been deleted.

Poor show.
Yes I saw them!

And my post prior to the 'pantomime' is missing too!

[EDIT - my post at least has been found elsewhere on the forum and posted back into the time line above!]

The site went a bit funny around 6.00pm and I noticed a few of my posts disappeared, so after doing them again the originals popped up some minutes later - having me to delete my original posts!

I assumed that everybody's posts were restored and there is certainly no audit trail of your posts having been deleted today - the last for you being on Saturday when you deleted your own message on the 'outrage' thread at 19:21.

Maybe when I deleted my other posts (Iles article about the hotel and payment of wages) it did something although I can't think why as I wasn't even in the same part of the forum let alone the same thread?

All I can do is apologise and to let you know nothing was done deliberately.



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57Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 21:07

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@T.R.O.Y wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Guys it's a bloody football forum.

Let's chill out.

I used to take the forums way way to seriously when NAT used to wind me up something rotten. I look back now and cringe at my behaviour.

Ye that is the point though, it’s just a football forum. If you can’t just ignore an opinion you don’t like there’s no hope for interesting conversation is there.

Remove the ban and grow up, this is a personal feud there’s nothing deserving one lusty’s posts of this ban.

Yawn.

It's been done to death already but I'll say it once more just for you...

The ban was for ABUSE and not for any opinion being held.

Wanderlust was asked many times to stop the abuse, he served bans for his abuse and when he was on his bans he even started posting abuse on other forums about me - and that really was the clincher.

Clearly if he returned the abuse would have simply continued and a further ban inevitable.

That was when it became obvious and demonstrable that he was never going to stop the abuse, clearly he could have stopped it if he wanted to - but he obviously didn't want to - so there really wasn't any point him returning.

It's not as though he wasn't warned enough about it numerous times over the last three years about it!

58Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 21:16

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Natasha Whittam wrote:This is a strange thread.

Sorry!

The thread you are talking about seems to be one of the posts I was making on this thread around 6:00pm when the site went a bit 'funny'?

I've merged my post and yours back into the timeline of this thread.

The best I can do I'm afraid.

Sorry again.

59Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 21:28

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Yawn all you want, but if I can rise above the ‘abuse’ I get off Karly I don’t see why you can’t ignore Lust. There’s even a built in feature for it.

The site loses a strong contributor as a result.

60Lusty permanently banned? - Page 2 Empty Re: Lusty permanently banned? on Tue May 21 2019, 21:53

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@T.R.O.Y wrote:Yawn all you want, but if I can rise above the ‘abuse’ I get off Karly I don’t see why you can’t ignore Lust. There’s even a built in feature for it.

The site loses a strong contributor as a result.

The site has suffered to the point of near death because I've/we've allowed two 'strong contributors' in Wanderlust and Bread to spout their bile and abuse on here for over three years apiece.

In the end both ended up leaving because of their ceaseless abusive behaviour and a complete unwillingness to moderate themselves in the least.

I do know from the occasional tweets of abuse Bread still hurls at me that he's been banned numerous times on twitter for the endless moronic personal abuse he posts on there.  Clearly not the normal behaviour for most people.

Wanderlust seems to have chosen a similar path for himself.

At least now after three years or more we again have a relatively toxic free forum once again.

Perhaps the humour we once had on here will return soon too.

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