wanderlust wrote:We know the Tories are corrupt and we know that corporations will exert influence on them - the recent Cameron and Paterson cases for example - and we know that as soon as the Tories got us out of the EU they voted down the offshore holdings tax bill, reduced corporation tax and refused to properly tax the resident oligarchs and their dodgy London registered companies. We know the role that corporates played in Brexit and we know they profited massively from it. Are the billions made in the immediate aftermath of government decisions just coincidence - even though the Tories were giving private audiences for hedge funders, corporates and/or their lobbyists in advance?
We know for a fact who the winners and losers are.
Sadly, the losers are the British people and all the evidence points to government corruption at our expense.
And I'll be more inclined to believe that until anyone can prove it's not happening.
It's all the Tories fault for everything with you isn't it?
We know that SOME 'people' are corrupt - Labour politicians as well you know - Blair took us to war on a lie, Mandelson resigned twice as a Minister for dodgy dealings, the Lib Dem's Chris Huhne who was at the time a Minister in the Coalition government was actually jailed for perjury.
But not all Torries are corrupt, and not all non-Tories are honest - don't you understand that?
Corporations do exert pressure on all governments - why do you think Tony Blair flew halfway around the world to get Murdoch's support in 1997 and the price he paid for his support???A new BBC documentary on media mogul Rupert Murdoch has provided new insight on his “almost incestuous” relationship with Tony Blair. https://pressgazette.co.uk/rupert-murdoch-documentary-rise-of-dynasty-bbc-tony-blair/
The Tory party was given the mandate to govern by the electorate - The Conservative Party have won the last FOUR General Elections - they vote down Labour bills - and when Labour are in power they vote down Tory bills - that's how democracy works.
In power Labour vote through the things they want to achieve and repeal Acts of Parliament they don't like - there's absolutely nothing sinister in Tory governments doing the same.
Corporations do speculate on the stock market and make millions (sometimes lose them too!) but that isn't illegal (unless they have insider information). How many people actually thought that Brexit would win???How the pollsters got it wrong on the EU referendum
It was a bad night for the opinion polls, with few predicting the 52:48 split in favour of leavehttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/how-eu-referendum-pollsters-wrong-opinion-predict-close
Not that many...
...yet you bang on, and on, and on, as though the big corporations fixed things so they could make a killing.
No they didn't - they couldn't fix the Referendum, no one could.
In fact nearly everyone thought Brexit would lose!
Yes, Russian money has been washed on London property, the rules have clearly been too lax. The stable door is being closed now but too late - and if Labour had been in power do you really think they would have blocked all this money flowing into the UK from Russia at that time..?
Yes, corporations use the stock exchanges to speculate on things like currency fluctuations - that's what they do.
I could have told you before the mini budget that massive tax cuts and no steps to balance the budget by borrowing (the government are not going to find anything like £6 billion from cuts in services) would lead to a loss of confidence in the pound - this is Janet and John level economics - and don't forget Truss set her stall out to get elected leader on the basis of massive and urgent tax cuts AND said how she detested how much borrowing Rishi had done.
So, no need for anyone to have these so-called imaginary tip offs before the event - everyone (but you apparently) would know what the effect of tax cuts and no additional borrowing would be.
What else did you think the mini budget was going to deliver???
Christ even Rishi told us what would happen TWO MONTHS AGO!!!Rishi Sunak attacks Truss tax cut plan
Sunak, the underdog in the leadership race, has repeatedly said throughout the contest that he would wait until inflation was under control, BEFORE embarking on a tax-cutting spree.
By contrast, Truss has promised £30bn worth of tax cuts, which Sunak has claimed would push up borrowing and boost inflation.
“The Bank has acted today and it is imperative that any future government grips inflation, not exacerbates it,” he said.
“Increasing borrowing will put upward pressure on interest rates, which will mean increased payments on people’s mortgages. It will also make high inflation and high prices last for longer, making everyone poorer.”https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/04/liz-truss-review-bank-of-england-mandate-says-tory-ally
Yes, under Truss's economic model the rich will get richer and the poor, poorer but that isn't due to corruption or some secret cabal pulling the strings of the country's Prime Minister, it is all to do with payback to those Conservative members who voted for her and the manifesto she stood on.
Feel free to believe in loony conspiracies but don't throw your toys out of your pram (and pathetically snitching to Karly...) when people like me laugh at you for it!