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42 Re: Are Labour Finished? Tue May 03 2016, 17:02
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
gloswhite wrote:She's been like that for years RT. Really believes she's something special, and working hard for 'her' people, whoever they are.
I totally agree. I don't like the way she talks down to people as if she is somehow the font of all knowledge. Which she isn't.
43 Re: Are Labour Finished? Tue May 03 2016, 17:06
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Reebok Trotter wrote:
I totally agree. I don't like the way she talks down to people as if she is somehow the font of all knowledge. Which she isn't.
You absolute fuc......oh, you weren't talking about me.
44 Re: Are Labour Finished? Tue May 03 2016, 17:09
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Natasha Whittam wrote:Reebok Trotter wrote:
I totally agree. I don't like the way she talks down to people as if she is somehow the font of all knowledge. Which she isn't.
You absolute fuc......oh, you weren't talking about me.
45 Re: Are Labour Finished? Tue May 03 2016, 17:35
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Her relationship with Portillo is particularly nauseating.Reebok Trotter wrote:I watched Diane Abbott being grilled by Andrew Marr on Sunday and she was awful. Patronising pontificating of the highest order. Dreadful..absolutely dreadful.
46 Re: Are Labour Finished? Tue May 03 2016, 19:27
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Natasha Whittam wrote:Reebok Trotter wrote:
I totally agree. I don't like the way she talks down to people as if she is somehow the font of all knowledge. Which she isn't.
You absolute fuc......oh, you weren't talking about me.
Don't be stupid Nat.
We KNOW you are the font of all knowledge.
47 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 08:41
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
gloswhite wrote:Any party that can elevate Livingstone and Diane Abbott to a position of authority, is asking for trouble.
When things were relatively quiet, Corbyn was making a little headway, but once the limelight is turned on him, everything is shown to be completely cocked up. The party is a disaster, not waiting to happen, but happening now.
That's a lack of professionalism.
In the States they vet candidates and use independent focus groups and opinion polls to assess the "public appeal" of their candidates before endorsing them.
I doubt Diane Abbott, Ken or Jeremy would pass that popularity test but they are there because instead of going for the people that will win votes (Blair being a prime example of that strategem being successful) they elect representatives who carry the most political kudos within the party - usually because they are the gobbiest or have the support of a clique.
It's all well and good to be morally or politically astute, but it means absolutely nothing if you can't get elected.
48 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 11:25
Guest
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Corbyn's leader because he won a huge mandate from the Labour membership. Can't think of any fairer or more democratic way of voting in a leader.
49 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 15:42
luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Including thousands and thousands of people who weren't even members of the Party but were allowed to vote after paying 3 quid and registering themselves as 'supporters', most of them Tory party members. Yep, real genius was at work there wasn't it?bwfc1874 wrote:Corbyn's leader because he won a huge mandate from the Labour membership. Can't think of any fairer or more democratic way of voting in a leader.
50 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 16:30
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Guest
You're an imbecile.
Name one source that says most of the people who signed up were Tories, you've made that up to fit your own narrative (as always).
It was well established at the time that it was a tiny number and a lot got cancelled before they even had the chance to vote. 400,000 votes cast and he won 60% of them, it's a huge mandate.
Name one source that says most of the people who signed up were Tories, you've made that up to fit your own narrative (as always).
It was well established at the time that it was a tiny number and a lot got cancelled before they even had the chance to vote. 400,000 votes cast and he won 60% of them, it's a huge mandate.
51 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 16:42
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
it might be a huge mandate from party members but most of his own party didn't want him as leader so he will achieve nothing other than division and lead the party even further down the opinion polls.
I am a Labour voter and this saddens me, he seems like a decent chap but he shouldn't be in charge of the Party.
I am a Labour voter and this saddens me, he seems like a decent chap but he shouldn't be in charge of the Party.
52 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 16:43
Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig wrote:it might be a huge mandate from party members but most of his own party didn't want him as leader so he will achieve nothing other than division and lead the party even further down the opinion polls.
I am a Labour voter and this saddens me, he seems like a decent chap but he shouldn't be in charge of the Party.
Get ready for 74 to call you an imbecile.
53 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 18:15
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
I have just seen in the news that Andy Burnham is now asking for a public enquiry for the miners at Orgreave who were allegedly abused by South Yorkshire Police during the miners strike.
Arthur Scargill will be loving this.
Arthur Scargill will be loving this.
54 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 18:17
Guest
Guest
Boggersbelief wrote:Norpig wrote:it might be a huge mandate from party members but most of his own party didn't want him as leader so he will achieve nothing other than division and lead the party even further down the opinion polls.
I am a Labour voter and this saddens me, he seems like a decent chap but he shouldn't be in charge of the Party.
Get ready for 74 to call you an imbecile.
Absolutely not, Norpig's is a fair comment, I personally like Corbyn and believe in his policies but if he isn't going to get into power then Pig's quite right he needs to go - Thursday will reveal a lot.
However to claim he won the vote based on thousands of Torys deciding to sign up is complete and utter bollocks.
55 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 19:23
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
If Labour want to get elected then,they'll have to scuttle off to the overcrowded middle ground,get on their knees,and pucker up,ready for the big 'suck off'.
Not for me mate.
If the electorate don't want Socialism,then so be it. I'm only bending so far,and no more.
Not for me mate.
If the electorate don't want Socialism,then so be it. I'm only bending so far,and no more.
56 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 19:29
Guest
Guest
boltonbonce wrote:If Labour want to get elected then,they'll have to scuttle off to the overcrowded middle ground,get on their knees,and pucker up,ready for the big 'suck off'.
Not for me mate.
If the electorate don't want Socialism,then so be it. I'm only bending so far,and no more.
You and me both, tovarisch.
59 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 19:36
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Have you read The Enemy Within by Seamus Milne?
Eye-watering stuff.
And well worth the money:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enemy-within-Thatchers-Secret-Against/dp/1844675084
Eye-watering stuff.
And well worth the money:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enemy-within-Thatchers-Secret-Against/dp/1844675084
60 Re: Are Labour Finished? Wed May 04 2016, 19:43
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Yes,I've read it. Got a copy somewhere. Gave it to a mate at work to read once,and he simply brushed it off as 'shite' Gave up on him in the end.
Wonder if those GCHQ people can be trusted?
Glos?
Wonder if those GCHQ people can be trusted?
Glos?
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