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61Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Fri Jun 26 2020, 22:44

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Spoken to a few others who have quit Labour over this issue. Hope they (and you Bonce) reconsider, I still think the Labour Party is our only real option for change in this country and can be a vehicle for progressive politics. Right now there is plenty I disagree with, but the left is broad if we don’t unite it’s even more Tory rule.

62Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Fri Jun 26 2020, 22:51

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:Spoken to a few others who have quit Labour over this issue. Hope they (and you Bonce) reconsider, I still think the Labour Party is our only real option for change in this country and can be a vehicle for progressive politics. Right now there is plenty I disagree with, but the left is broad if we don’t unite it’s even more Tory rule.
The phone calls/emails started early this morning, most of them urging me not to make a rash decision. Although it's been on my mind for a few weeks, I pondered long and hard about jacking it in. I have 60 days to reconsider, and, after a call from a friend inside Momentum urging me to fight from the inside, I've probably been swayed to retain my membership. As I've said, it's easier to join than leave.

63Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 13:35

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Starmer is just having a cleanout. He was waiting for an excuse to sack her and he used that one to kill two with one stone.  She was a rival during the voting. Parties often have a cleanout when they reorganise and this excuse gave them a chance to sort out the anti-semitism stigma.

64Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 13:45

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Ye fair point, the only positive I’ve seen is the positive media reaction. This sort of action will at least mean the vilification of Labour as anti-Semitic can come to an end.

65Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 14:45

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Sluffy, what the hell is going on?
Sorry my friend, but lately you've been extremely touchy. Whats brought all this to a head?
We know TROY is a pain in the bum, but he genuinely can't see it at times. As for XM being a troll, I don't think so, he's too busy with red buses and putting down everything the government does.  Very Happy
I also saw there was no response from XM, which is most unusual, does that mean you've cut him off in his prime? I hope not.

66Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 15:14

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Quite agree glos. He's been like a sore with a bear head. XM is back by the way. Cool

67Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 22:45

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

When did the Bumchums start recruiting outsiders?
Nuts will always be my number 1, yes i've been on ww lately but don;t get the same vibe i get on here. Its a larger site but still feel like an outsider on there, very cliquey (more so than on here)

68Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 22:52

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

When did the Bumchums start recruiting outsiders?
Nuts will always be my number 1, yes i've been on ww lately but don;t get the same vibe i get on here. Its a larger site but still feel like an outsider on there, very cliquey (more so than on here)

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69Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 22:53

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Sluffy please for the good of this site can you count to ten before you type and ban people like xmiles?

I've said this before but here goes again, you need yo take responsibility for how the site is now. You ban people on a whim and will not listen to anyone else's point of view. Please chill out and let the site get back to some kind of normality. 

I thought we were getting back to normal with Lusty and Boggers back but then you go and ban xmiles for no good reason.

70Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 22:54

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
sorry love  Very Happy

71Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 22:55

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:
sorry love  Very Happy

Very Happy Very Happy

72Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 23:10

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig's back safe. I've aborted my mission.
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73Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Sat Jun 27 2020, 23:37

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

When did the Bumchums start recruiting outsiders?
Nuts will always be my number 1, yes i've been on ww lately but don;t get the same vibe i get on here. Its a larger site but still feel like an outsider on there, very cliquey (more so than on here)

It's extremely cliquey, the site is born out of a group of blokes who used to call themselves the Ant Hill Mob and seemed to consider themselves to be the 'boot boy' supporters of the club dating back to the early 1980's.

Obviously they are all a lot older and several have done very well for themselves but there is always a 'romanticised' belief by them that they still themselves as 'hard core' and the real 'protectors' of the club when needed!

As I posted above the threats and abuse from several of them to a poster known to be about 80 years of age, just because he didn't agree with the consensus of opinion (which was factually wrong anyway) and told/inferred that several of them were not the smartest (true as well but better not to have been said) was utterly appalling.

I posted to say that such behaviour was out of order and was banned without warning sometime later without posting much if anything on there in the interim.

I know the elderly gentleman was banned, so assumed my ban was for simply speaking out to stick up for him against the needless threats and abuse.

The good points about that site - and there are plenty, are that it is the first and biggest BWFC forum around, many of the posters do attend games (home and away) on a regular basis - so they see the players and managers close up and give an alternative narrative to listen to than that by the club or Iles, and they often are the first to hear what is going on within the club.

The bad points are the abuse and threats, their 'pack' mentality and the hounding off the site of anyone they take against.

There are a number of smart people who post on there and their knowledge, views and opinions are well worth listening to but unfortunately many tend just to behave in a loutish/laddish manner and don't appear to be tolerant to any view that doesn't match their own.

It will always be the biggest and busiest forum simply because it is the most well known and first usually with BWFC news but unless you like taking chemical substances, getting pissed, calling folk cunts and offering people out for a 'straightener', then perhaps it isn't the forum for you.

Another forum that has lost it's humour and warmth since Brexit, Anderson and how well/shockingly (delete as appropriate) the government is doing.

74Keir Starmer - new Labour leader - Page 3 Empty Re: Keir Starmer - new Labour leader on Mon Jun 29 2020, 20:10

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
KS very impressive on TV this morning. No Tories prepared to turn up for interviews on ITV...Scrutiny avoidance. The dismissal of our top civil servant has all the hallmarks of Cummings' machinations to overhaul Whitehall!

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